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« #255 : 09/27/09 10:35:36 »
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on 09/26/09 09:06:45, Nick_Sakva wrote:

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... the law, which is a set of norms by which a coercive act, the sanction, is attached, as consequence, to a conduct, the delict, as a condition of the sanction.
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A norm prescribes or permits a certain human behavior. A set of norms which form for some reason or another a unit we call a normative order. The law is a normative order, and since legal norms provide for coercive acts as sanctions, the law is a coercive order.
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Legal norms are issued by legal authorities ...

 
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« : 09/27/09 11:17:02 : Traun »

"Viel leisten, wenig hervortreten, mehr sein als scheinen, muss sich jeder Generalstaboffizier zum Wahlspruch nehmen." (c) Feldmarschall Graf von Schlieffen
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« #256 : 09/27/09 14:36:20 »
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on 09/27/09 10:35:36, Traun wrote:

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« #257 : 09/27/09 15:55:48 »
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on 09/27/09 14:36:20, Nick_Sakva wrote:

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« : 09/27/09 16:32:42 : Traun »

"Viel leisten, wenig hervortreten, mehr sein als scheinen, muss sich jeder Generalstaboffizier zum Wahlspruch nehmen." (c) Feldmarschall Graf von Schlieffen
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« #258 : 09/27/09 16:55:53 »
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on 09/27/09 15:55:48, Traun wrote:
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« #259 : 09/27/09 18:10:36 »
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on 09/27/09 16:55:53, Nick_Sakva wrote:

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« : 09/27/09 18:15:11 : Traun »

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« #260 : 09/27/09 18:12:24 »
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« #261 : 09/27/09 18:50:34 »
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on 09/27/09 18:10:36, Traun wrote:
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« #262 : 09/27/09 19:18:53 »
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on 09/27/09 18:12:24, Nick_Sakva wrote:

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« : 09/27/09 19:50:03 : Traun »

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« #263 : 09/27/09 19:37:09 »
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on 09/27/09 18:50:34, Nick_Sakva wrote:

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on 09/27/09 18:50:34, Nick_Sakva wrote:

, Uber Alles.
 

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Deutschland, Deutschland ueber alles,
Ueber alles in der Welt,
Wenn es stets zu Schutz und Trutze
Bruederlich zusammenhaelt,
Von der Maas bis an die Memel,
Von der Etsch bis an den Belt -
Deutschland, Deutschland ueber alles,
Ueber alles in der Welt.  
 
Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang
Sollen in der Welt behalten
Ihren alten schoenen Klang,
Uns zu edler Tat begeistern
Unser ganzes Leben lang.
Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang.
   
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Fuer das deutsche Vaterland!
Danach lasst uns alle streben
Bruederlich mit Herz und Hand!
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Sind des Glueckes Unterpfand.
Blueh' im Glanze dieses Glueckes,
Bluehe, deutsches Vaterland.

 
(c) Heinrich Hoffmann von Fallersleben 1841
 
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Grin
« : 09/27/09 20:28:13 : Traun »

"Viel leisten, wenig hervortreten, mehr sein als scheinen, muss sich jeder Generalstaboffizier zum Wahlspruch nehmen." (c) Feldmarschall Graf von Schlieffen
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« #264 : 09/27/09 19:47:23 »
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on 09/27/09 19:18:53, Traun wrote:
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« #265 : 09/27/09 20:36:18 »
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on 09/27/09 19:47:23, Nick_Sakva wrote:

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« : 09/27/09 20:36:40 : Traun »

"Viel leisten, wenig hervortreten, mehr sein als scheinen, muss sich jeder Generalstaboffizier zum Wahlspruch nehmen." (c) Feldmarschall Graf von Schlieffen
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« #266 : 09/27/09 21:33:20 »
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« #267 : 09/28/09 16:36:54 »
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« #269 : 09/28/09 23:02:39 »
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on 09/27/09 00:36:52, IgorS wrote:

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